EP 19: Mikey Schaefer (Part 2)
May 25, 2020
This is part 2 of my conversation with Mikey Schaefer. We talked about climbing as a finite resource, footwear for big walls, rope tricks, Mikey’s “fix and follow” system for team-free ascents, climbing smarter, what Mikey is grateful for, and a refreshing perspective about COVID. You can find part 1 of our conversation in episode 18.
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Listen to Part 1 here.
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Follow-Ups:
thenuggetclimbing.com/follow-ups
Products:
Resources:
Mikey’s “fix and follow” system - article by Josh Wharton
Steve House - Climbing Biography (Nanga Parbat details)
Routes Mentioned:
‘Moonlight Buttress’ 5.12+, Zion, UT
Mikey’s Links:
Nuggets:
1:31 – Climbing ‘Moonlight Buttress’ in his 20s, 30s, and 40s
4:09 – Moonlight getting easier, wearing out climbs, being mindful of the impact we have on climbs and climbing areas, and Mikey’s advocate “rant”
10:06 – How Mikey thinks about footwear, and being smarter (as well as stronger)
16:27 – Tommy Caldwell as a one-show-size climber, and how Mikey chose his shoes for ‘ Moonlight Buttress’
18:45 – Compression socks, warmup up in socks and TC Pros, climbing in approach shoes, and developing footwork by climbing in shittier shoes
22:53 – Tinkering with systems, “It’s easier to climb smarter than it is to get stronger”, weighing gear with a gram scale, and measuring the force of different top rope systems
27:18 – “Friends don’t let friends belay”, Mikey’s “fix and follow” system, and leading in blocks
34:56 – Grateful for financial security, Mikey’s grandfather held captive, and a refreshing perspective on COVID
41:01 – Why Mikey feels content with where he’s at, plans to continue moving the spiral upward, and continuing to be a jack of all trades