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EP 110: “The Verm” Returns
Top History, Top Bouldering, Top Real Talk Steven Dimmitt Top History, Top Bouldering, Top Real Talk Steven Dimmitt

EP 110: “The Verm” Returns

This is round 2 with John Sherman aka “The Verm”. We sat in the desert near Hueco Tanks and chatted over a few beers. We talked about ‘Wheatiesgate’ and the lost art of heckling, finding and developing areas before the internet, dealing with aging, photographing and studying birds, life lessons, injury stories, and John’s favorite beers.

*I recommend listening to my first episode with Verm (EP 108) before this episode.

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EP 108: John Sherman
Top History, Top Bouldering Steven Dimmitt Top History, Top Bouldering Steven Dimmitt

EP 108: John Sherman

John Sherman is a bouldering legend. His nickname “Verm” (short for “Vermin”) is where the “V” in our bouldering grade system came from. We sat down in a cave in Hueco Tanks and talked about what bouldering was like 30+ years ago, early climbing shoes, highballing before crash pads were invented, out-of-body experiences, and how some of the boulders got their provocative names.

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